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Freden är över Sverige i krig

Inläggav Fromm » 30 jul 2009 11:16

Text-Tv skrev:Svensk trupp dödade ytterligare tre Ytterligare tre afghaner har dödats i strider med svenskar i Afghanistan. Enligt uppgifter till Rapport dödades de tre i lördags när en finländsk- svensk trupp patrullerade tillsammans med en afghansk säkerhetsstyrka. Deras fordon träffades och slutade att fungera. De tog betäckning i ett dike och för första gången avlossade svenskar dödande kulor, säger SVT:s Lars Moberg på plats i Afghanistan. -Vi skjuter för att försvara våra egna liv, säger Markus som var med i eldstriden, som svar på frågan om svenskarna skjuter för att döda.


Text-Tv skrev:Talibanledare: Svenskar kommer att dö Bakhåll och självmordsattacker väntar de svenska och finländska soldaterna i Isaf-styrkan i norra Afghanistan. -Hämnden kommer - kanske inte i dag eller i morgon eller nästa vecka men den kommer. Svenskar kommer att dödas. Men just nu är vårt mål att sabotera valet, säger talibanledaren Zamir i en intervju med TT. Zamir anser inte att de utländska soldaterna är i Afghanistan för att hjälpa folket utan för att "plundra, tortera, döda och förgifta vår tro". -Ta hem era soldater. Ni har inget här att hämta, bara död, säger han.
When you play the fiddle at the top of the state, what else is to be expected but that those down below dance?
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Inläggav Fromm » 19 aug 2009 12:08

Sverige är i krig - det är som i fornstora dar. Men den här gången är det inte i Lützen utan i Afghanistan som dimman breder ut sig.

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The New Kabul of Warlords and Infidels

Inläggav Fromm » 19 aug 2009 12:16

Tänkte återge Capital of Chaos ur boken Evil Paradises :)

The re-establishment of the rule of law in Afghanistan is essential to the peace process. Without reform of the institutions of justice ... impunity for armed lawbreakers will persist, citizens will remain de-prived of justice, and the confidence of international investors will re-main low'
Amid the ruined mud-brick buildings of a city that has been devastated by war and neglect, divided into sinister, heavily fortified, military compounds, and occupied by armed local and foreign mercenaries, stand randomly dispersed extravaganzas of glass-and-tile palaces: symbols of the plunder that currently provides the economic base for the "reborn" Kabul. One result of the so-called War on terror in Afghanistan is that vast amounts of money are now pouring into luxury real estate. In return for military intelligence and armed cooperation, the VS, military has "supplied weapons and cash to many warlords since 2001," with the result that power has been restored in the outlying provinces to a hand-ful of armed despots who are willing to risk military affiliation with the "coali-tion" forces in Afghanistan in return for vast rewards. This cash, along with the profits from the flourishing drug trade and various other sources, has been rein-vested in Afghanistan's cities, spurring an unprecedented building frenzy. The construction boom is mainly centered in Kabul, but it affects all major urban areas, including the historic center of Herat, which has witnessed the destruction of many of its most notable buildings during this onrush of speculative construc-tion. More importantly, in addition to cash paid in advance for cooperation, an unspoken agreement now ensures that the Afghan authorities will overlook a booming black economy. This arrangement has led to a boom in the illicit nar-cotics trade, which is controlled mainly by allies of the current government.
As Pierre-Arnaud Chouvy points out:
several factors have favored the rapid restoration of opium production since the Taliban prohibition. Prior to 2004 at least, the United States largely condoned opi-ates production both in areas traditionally controlled by the Northern Alliance, for example in Badakhshan, and in areas held by local commanders whose support was deemed strategically necessary to fight the Taliban and Al-Qaeda.'
Afghanistan is the world's largest producer of opium (roughly 87 percent of global production), and generates a local income of US$2 to 3 billion in 2005.' This is more than half of the country's gross domestic product and nearly ten times the estimated domestic revenue collected by the government for the same year (US$333 million).' According to Human Rights Watch, "drug profits [for 2004] led to continuing insecurity in rural areas, and stifled reconstruction and de-velopment efforts, including efforts to improve rule of law."' The power relations associated with the drug economy have an immense influence on the reality of
everyday life in the cities and provinces of Afghanistan.
Considering the ample resources that are available (a US$ 1. 2-billion budget for core development that prioritizes expenditure on basic infrastructure)' and, contrary to the international community's assumptions concerning the rebuilding of Kabul, there has been very little progress in the reconstruction of the city. Except for highway projects, which seem to have been implemented to facilitate military operations rather than civilian traffic, and the millions being spent on the coali-tion forces' new facilities at Bagram (United States), Helmand (United Kingdom),and Darluman (NATO), there is little evidence of internationally sponsored large-44 .11 c reconstruction of infrastructure taking place in Kabul. On the contrary, just some observers predicted, the real impetus in construction comes from the private sector fueled by the opium trade. As they rush to take advantage of the current state of lawlessness and corruption in Kabul, warlords and drug trafficker is are changing the face of the city.
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Inläggav Kallekula » 19 aug 2009 13:18

Håller med dig här Fromm. Ska någon form av intervention i ett land ske ska detta gå via FN.

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Inläggav suchanother » 19 aug 2009 13:35

Va Kalle? Artikeln handlar väl om opiumproduktionen i Afghanistan?

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Inläggav Kallekula » 19 aug 2009 13:42

Jaha. Läste inte tog för givet att det handlade om en pamflett emot USA och imperialismens utbredning i Afganistan, Sverige som medlöpare osv. Så som det alltid låter från vänstern.

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Inläggav suchanother » 19 aug 2009 14:00

Du läser för fort Kalle och hjärnan hänger inte med. Eller vart det tvärtom?

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Inläggav biggj » 19 aug 2009 18:39

Hejsan!

Ja det är onekligen ironiskt att under talibanernas tid odlades till slut inget opium i de delar av Afghanistan de styrde över, 90 procent av landet, förutom den allra nordöstligaste regionen.

När USA invaderade och satte marionetten Karzai som president, landet, började opiumodlandet snabbt ta fart. Redan efter fyra år odlades 80 procent av världens opium i Afghanistan. Och vilka organiserar då denna verksamhet? Jo det gör främst president Karzais egen familj, där ene brodern är den store hövdingen i denna produktion. Därtill kommer olika krigsherrar som anslutit sig till Karzai och även dessa tvingar bönderna att odla opium.

Det mest ironiska är att medan NATO och USA säger sig bedriva ett krig mot talibaner och terrorister, så skyddar de samtidigt den opiumodlande skaran av krigsherrar, inklusive president Karzais familj. Och just detta opium når sedan missbrukare i Europa, Nordafrika, Västasien och Nordamerika. Således bidrager NATO-staterna till att hålla uppe opiumexporten till hemländerna för att på så sätt kunna legitimera sin närvaro i Afghanistan genom att påstå att de slåss både mot terrorister och opiumodlare. Ja, NATO underlättar även utförseln av opiumet från Afghanistan. Precis som i den Gyllene triangeln under 1960-1970-talen då CIA-plan flög hem tonvis med opium till USA från sina allierade i Indokina (mest "stamfolk") som uppmanades leva på opiumodling. Denna NATO-terror har enligt en del källor sedan invasionen 2001 kostat över 3 miljonerr afghaners liv!

Att detta pågår är man i NATO-staternas ledningar medvetna om - men man följer ändå USA:s plan att fortsätta kriget eftersom detta samtidigt innebär att man anser sig ha kontroll över övriga världen och därmed skrämmer diverse aktörer från att ta över ett stort vakuum i Centralasien. Kriget förs helt enkelt för sitt eget syfte - västvärlden är idag så nära kolappsen som det går att komma, därför tager man till detta klassiska trix - att vända blickarna bort från de egna problemen.

Och i NATO-staterna finns det än så länge tillräckligt många stollar som tror att man är i Afghanistan för att bekämpa terrorismen. I verkligheten är det NATO som sysslar med terrorism. För varje av "islamister" dödad civilperson i Irak och Afghanistan sedan 1991 har NATO-stater dödat omkring 500 civilpersoner. Tar man med offren för narkotikan som NATO hjälper till att transportera västerut kan man ta med omkring 5 västerlänningar som avlider av sitt missbruk per dödad civilperson som terroristerna dödar.

Talar man med all västvärldens insatta poliser vad gäller knarkmissbruket, så är svaret det samma över allt - när Afghanistan invaderades av USA/NATO i slutet av år 2001 tog det bara ett år för priserna på knarket att börja sjunka i väst. Efter några år var knarket väldigt billigt jämfört med fem-tio år tidigare. Annat spelar också roll i denna prissättning, bla kemiskt tillverkad knark i en massa varianter, men den viktigaste faktorn är att den NATO-skyddade knarkproduktionen i Afghanistan har gjort missbruket mer utbrett eftersom priserna gått ned sedan Karzai-klanen tog över ruljanserna!  :wink:

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Inläggav Fromm » 20 aug 2009 09:28

biggj skrev:Därtill kommer olika krigsherrar som anslutit sig till Karzai och även dessa tvingar bönderna att odla opium.


En av dessa krigsherrar fick utföra ett massmord (på 2000) trots närvaro av soldater från USA. "US Special Forces could have stopped it".
Han återvänder till valen för att hans folk skall rösta på presidenten Karzai.

Eight Years After Orchestrating Massacre at Dasht-e-Leili, Afghan Warlord Abdul Rashid Dostum Returns to Afghanistan to Campaign for Karzai

One of Afghanistan’s most feared warlords has returned to Afghanistan just days before its presidential election. General Abdul Rashid Dostum is one of several warlords who have allied with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, who is seeking a new term. Karzai is hoping Dostum’s return will help attract ethnic Uzbek voters. Dostum’s return to prominence in Afghanistan comes despite his role overseeing a 2001 massacre at Dasht-e-Leili that left at least 2,000 Taliban POWs dead. He’s also had extensive ties with the US and was formerly on the CIA payroll. We speak with international human rights lawyer, Andrew McEntee.


Läs hela http://www.democracynow.org/2009/8/18/e ... assacre_at
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The New Kabul of Warlords and Infidels

Inläggav Fromm » 20 aug 2009 09:57

Går vidare med stycket Land as Power
Klaga om det är svårt att läsa.  :)

Just as illegal transactions have become the hallmark of the new Afghan economy, the dubious or blatantly illegal acquisition of land has become a dominant real-estate practice in the capital. Tracts of land on the outskirts of Kabul are routinely confiscated by warlords and militia commanders and then sold off to the highest bidders. Since an exact survey of new construction in Kabul does not ex-m. it is difficult to calculate the number of buildings illegally constructed on these expropriated sites, but conservative estimates put the total number, including privet c homes, in the thousands.
Many areas of Kabul have experienced radical transformations over the last 1cw years. In the centrally located district of Sherpur, for example, land belonging Iii the Ministry of Defense had been occupied since the 1950s by squatters who had streamed to Kabul from outlying villages. Their simple mud-brick dwellings had always been tolerated until 2003, a year following the establishment of the Transitional Administration, when the minister of defense suddenly ordered the mass demolition of the entire squatter community. Giving residents only one day's notice, the ministry bulldozed Sherpur, injuring several residents who resis-ted these actions. The cleared area was subsequently converted into a new resi-dential district for powerful politicians, warlords, and businessmen. The land was divided and sold in large parcels, which in turn were further subdivided and resold at immense profit. A report by RAWA (Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan) alleged that in Sherpur "300 plots [amounting to] around 120 hectares (120,000 square meters) were distributed among senior government officials including ministers, deputy ministers, governors, commanders, generals, intelligence (KHAD) administrators, and businessmen."' The group who seized the land offered a few "land grants"—a common practice employed by the Afghan government—to civil servants and senior officials in order to dispel any potential resistance to the illegal acquisition and to serve as a decoy while it actu-ally sold the majority of the plots at market rates. Several ministers in the Hamid Karzai interim government were implicated in the ensuing scandal when it was exposed that they had received free plots of land in Sherpur in return for expul-sion of the poor residents.
It was only when the international news media reported on the takeover of Sherpur that the Karzai administration hesitantly referred the matter to the newly established Human Rights Commission in Afghanistan. The Special Rap porteur on Adequate Housing to the UN Commission on Human Rights, Miloon Kothari, concluded in a public interview: "essentially what we have found there is that ministers and people at the highest level are involved in occupying land and in demolishing the homes of poor people.... In fact a number of ministers, in-cluding the minister of defense, [are] directly involved in this kind of occupation and dispossession of poor people, some of whom have been there for 25 to 30 years." Kothari went on to warn that "there is a great climate of insecurity that is being created across the country, which is for reasons other than armed conflict; it's for reasons of occupation, it's for reasons of land speculation, it's for reasons of property conflict," and he predicted that "unless these issues are addressed at the judicial level, at all other levels, what we are seeing in Afghanistan today is that we are sowing the seeds for decades of conflict ... due to a land and prop-erty and housing crisis."'
Kothari's forthright denunciation of land piracy enraged the perpetrators: that is to say, the powerful ministers, bureaucrats, and warlords who supposedly represent "democracy restored" in Afghanistan. They complained to UN Special Representative Lakhdar Barhimi, who punctually reprimanded Kothari for daring to criticize the land grab. But the abuses were too blatant to be easily swept under the rug, and eventually pressure from international human rights groups and the foreign media forced the Karzai regime to undertake a token redemption: the land pirates were formally required to pay the government the equivalent of 20% of the market value of the property wrested from the poor residents of Sherpur. Yet it is unclear if any reparation has actually been received, and for most poor Kabul’s the Sherpur scandal continues to epitomize the reign of greed,
corruption, and extravagance that has followed the expulsion of the Taliban and the advent of the pro-Western Karzai regime.
Despite their occasional criticisms of slum evictions, the international community in Kabul has become hopelessly entangled in the city's sinister real-estate econ-omy. The demand for first-class accommodations and offices for the UN, the NGOs, hiring contractors, and major aid agencies generates much of the inflation in land values and, indeed, has spurred strategic land grabbing by high officials and war-lords. The international entities (as our fieldwork in Sherpur and similar districts re-veals) seek high levels of physical security as well as standards of First World luxury rarely available in the world's fifth-poorest country The result of this quest has 14-en the creation of informal colonial enclaves or "green zones," new fortified segregation of space that belie the noble mission statements of foreign agencies.
Foreign tenants spend a majority of time in the security of their homes and of-lit us, so their properties are characterized by the ubiquitous and menacing pressurize of heavily armed guards. Within these compounds, luxury is defined by the presence of en suite bathrooms adjacent to each room, and by kitchens designed %% it h plenty of storage space for food and supplies, so as to minimize the need to have the house too frequently (as a local realtor explained to during a guided tour ,I the district). Some houses are even equipped with underground parking, of-lei mg secure and direct access to the house. These self-sufficient, inward-focused worlds are designed to maintain their subjects in isolation and security, and are offered at extravagant premiums. Rents approach US$15,000 per month, or ap-proximately twenty times the average annual income in Afghanistan, according it) the U.S. government."
Following a coordination meeting at ACBAR (the Agency Coordinating Body hit, Afghan Relief) in 2002, members of the NGO community in Afghanistan sent an e-mail to Ashraf Ghana, the then director of the Afghanistan Aid Coordination Authority and later minister of finance. They complained that:
Housing costs have escalated dramatically in the past few months, sometimes by twenty or thirty times and more.... A major cause of housing costs has been de-mand at the high end of the market triggered by demand from the UN, INGOs, in-ternational financial institutions, donors, and embassies. A trickle-down effect results as those evicted from high-end residences seek new accommodation further down the scale, leading to further evictions as landlords seek to profit from this un-controlled market. NGOs are concerned that many of these evictions are illegal, and tenants, particularly the poor, have no practical legal recourse to protection. Some landlords are making fraudulent claims that high taxes are forcing them to raise rents. They are then insisting that tenants sign two leases in order to avoid these taxes (one for the tenant at a high rent and one presented to the government at a lower rent)."
The international community's complicity in rewarding the criminal land grabs by Afghan elite’s has become increasingly intolerable in the eyes of the poor—who constitute the majority of the population in Kabul. The realization that the international presence is increasingly helping the rich and powerful to consoli-date their positions by exploiting and evicting the poor is creating new levels of
resentment toward the foreign forces and local criminal elements who collec-tively control the city"
To complicate matters further, many local power brokers feel that the confis-cation of land is their "God-given right," a reward for fighting the holy war to re-pel the foreign invaders (by which they mean the former Soviet Union and the Pakistani-backed Taliban). The Karzai government continues to turn a blind eye to this incessant plunder, preferring to pamper the powerful (including members of the recently elected parliament) instead of bringing them to justice.
When you play the fiddle at the top of the state, what else is to be expected but that those down below dance?
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Inläggav Kallekula » 20 aug 2009 21:10

..fast hur är det nu i Afganistan agerar USA på egen hand eller är det under FN mandat?

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Inläggav Fromm » 21 aug 2009 10:01

Kalle du är för tragekomisk läs texten så kanske det går upp ett ljus. Vill du något annat formulera då en fråga.
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The New Kabul of Warlords and Infidels

Inläggav Fromm » 21 aug 2009 10:02

Går vidare med stycket Architecture as Alchemy

In a permanent crisis marked by foreign political interference on one hand and in-ternal political jockeying on the other, the fledgling government of Afghanistan is unable to hold its own civil servants accountable for their actions. This results in the further corruption of institutions, while at the same time producing inef-fective bureaucracies for the control of urban growth and building practices. The inevitable consequence of this administrative stalemate is that private development continues to advance at an astonishingly rapid rate along the path of least resistance. Kabul has become the new architectural Babylon of Central Asia, notorious for its crude displays of wealth and blatant aesthetic of excess. A plethora of wildly decorated buildings sporting extravagant colors, patterns, textures, and materials are blossoming in the Afghan landscape. An Afghan thug aesthetic has emerged, marking the warlord palaces and commercial centers of the new city ,whit bold, flashy, untrained, and stunning visual effects of glistening, outrageously lured glass and mirrored tiles.
As a result of the highly inflated construction costs, tangled bureaucracy, corrupt building bureaucracies, and land confiscation’s, only those with money and influence are able to build in Kabul. They wage an intentional architectural battle with one another as they engage in strange displays of conspicuous consumption.
extravagance and ornamentation determine both the design and execution of the new construction. As in many parts of the world dominated by chaos and the naked struggle for power, the eccentric Afghan aesthetic forged by business-men, militia commanders, drug barons, and warlords represents the first signs of an emerging postwar order and pathology. From surreal, Disney-style scenic settings—for instance, featuring plastic deer grazing alongside white doves who tentatively sneak a sip of water from the lavishly decorated fountains—to intri-cately designed exterior facades plastered with multicolored tiles, the new architecture of Kabul is a collage of generic international products fused with kitsch %.1111plings of Afghan vernacular architecture and textile patterns, all of which re-flect the schizophrenic psyche of a war-torn society.
More than any other form of cultural production, the recent urban develop-went in Kabul—and in Afghanistan at large—represents the emergence of a fractured identity. The individuals responsible for the design and construction of this new environment range from farmers, brick masons, drug barons, and warlords to local contractors and tradesmen. In this new version of the city they make, the mohandis (architect) is no longer consulted for technical or aesthetic services. On the contrary, designs for buildings are being imported into the country much like Imitation Gucci handbags.
In Kabul, real-estate developers not only organize their own financing and determine the use of buildings by themselves; they also design and supervise the construction. In a collage-like process, they select images from various sources, mixing together unrelated architectural styles and construction methods. The as-semblage is then discussed with the builder in order to customize and "morph" the fragments into what the developer considers to be a "coherent" building. As in a PhotoShop collage, windows, doors, balconies, gardens, and water features are all copied and then reduced or enlarged to suit the site and the wishes of the designer. The internal organization of the building is usually left up to the builder, who extrapolates floor plans and structural requirements from the mo-saic of various images. The design and construction process can take as little as six months. In commercial developments, the upper floors are often left incom-plete, in order to allow for future expansion. This method ensures that the build-ing remains in a perpetual state of incompletion, capable of absorbing prevailing tastes and fluctuating trends when construction resumes. As a whole, however, this complex of unfinished architectural collages only accentuates the ad hoc and chaotic aspects of the urban environment in Kabul.
"Warlord kitsch," as one might characterize Kabul's nouveaux riches archi-tecture, is also fraught with contradiction. If the import of foreign typologies advances a process of globalization and Westernization, the inherent qualities of the imported architecture are simultaneously undermined as local builders attempt to conform to local customs and construction methods. For example, if certain foreign patterns of fenestration appear too "exposed" for the male-dominated Afghan society—making the private and interior world in which women are segregated vulnerable to the public gaze—a common solution is to replace the transparent glazing with mirrored glass, and then to draw heavy curtains across the opening. The importing of "foreign" architecture has become second nature. Along with certain intended architectural expressions come the by-products of its mutation, which together point to a lack of cohesion in the overall reconstruction process occurring in Afghan society as a whole.
Beyond questions of taste, the extravagant and brutal aesthetic that now dom-inates the new construction in Kabul raises critical questions about the ways in which architecture symbolizes power, wealth, and, most importantly, freedom from control and regulation. This architecture of impunity sets the stage for the drama of disillusionment now current among the general public, who are grow-ing increasingly skeptical about the ability of the government and its agencies to regulate such powerful forces in the city. What is at stake ultimately is political sovereignty itself. An expanding illicit urbanism highlights the paralysis of the government and is understood by increasing numbers of ordinary citizens as an almost open invitation to act in the same vein. In a vicious cycle, this, in turn, ex-acerbates the impotence of corrupt and overloaded institutions. Afghanistan is sinking into a ruthless cycle of abuse and impotency as it struggles to conform to the West's double standards.
When you play the fiddle at the top of the state, what else is to be expected but that those down below dance?
Karl Marx

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Inläggav Kallekula » 21 aug 2009 11:48

Aha enkelt. Då handlar det om en ondsint plan från USA att få igång opiumproduktion i syfte att härska och söndra. Ännu en obevisad  konspirationsteori från extremvänstern. Är det inte det ena så är det det alltid det andra.

Så slapp jag läsa texterna även denna gång.

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Inläggav Fromm » 21 aug 2009 13:59

Nä Kalle lilla, boken handlar om att USA saknar en plan för kriget, de anlitar privata marknadsekonomi vilket skapar en drömvärld för neoliberaler.
Har du svårt med engelskan be mor/far läsa för dig. Vem vet ni kanske flyttar dit.  8)
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